OSU football debacle discussion thread

[Larkin]

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/sp ... ml?sid=101



Here is one thing though: why did he have to resign on Memorial day? He has no business being in the news today. We shouldn't even be THINKING about football.

Stay classy Tress.

[Doug-Morgan]

Heard it this morning while driving, and my wife asked me to keep my hands on the wheel. Something about my applauding bothered her. Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. Tressel was the Big 10's answer to Rick Neuheisel.

[Mike Austerman]

And now it appears that Pryor is under his own investigation from the NCAA. If only a portion of what's being rumored turns out to be true, this whole thing will get really, really ugly.

Can't help but wonder how far it will spread if it gets bad enough at Ohio State. The money is so big, the temptations so easy to give in to at so many programs around the country. Can't help but wonder if Ohio State will merely be the fuse that finally blows up big-time college football.

[Larkin]

Here is the very damaging SI report:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/m ... eref=sihp#

In August the NCAA's Committee on Infractions will review the alleged rules violations committed by Tressel and his players. Tressel violated NCAA bylaw 10.1 -- Unethical Conduct, one of the cornerstones of NCAA rulebook -- three times: first by failing to act when tipped off about the tattoo scandal; again last fall, by signing a standard form given to all coaches declaring that he knew of no violations; and then, last December, by not being forthcoming with school officials. Tressel's violations will almost certainly lead to sanctions that will follow him to any school that might hire him, making it highly unlikely that he will coach a major college program again. Like Woody Hayes, the ruination at the end of his Ohio State career will tail him forever.

And this:

The university's search for a permanent replacement will surely include a call to former Florida coach Urban Meyer, who like Tressel was an assistant under Earle Bruce. Meyer has bristled at talk that he would become the Buckeyes' coach, and he and other top candidates will probably wait and see what the Committee on Infractions decides. Despite Gene Smith's insistence to the contrary, the school had a systemic problem and is likely to be hit with heavy sanctions, including the loss of several scholarships.

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/m ... z1NtI6uDIi

Leads me to think Urban will pass on the job. WTVN in Columbus did wall to wall coverage. Most of the callers and the hosts agreed with Tressel's fate and even mentioned that it was BS for them to do this on the holiday, but some callers were such tools.

[Constant Listener]

Here is the very damaging SI report:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/m ... eref=sihp#

Just read the entire article on SI.com.

With all his Bible thumping, then pleading ignorance on what his players were doing / involved in, Tressel is truly a hypocrite on so many different levels.....

[Larkin]

Yeah, that was quite the fall from grace wasn't it?

He is a fool. When the original E-mail came in, he should have printed it off, and taken it right to Gene Smith and walked away. It wouldn't have been his problem anymore and he should have taken the suspension. Instead, it was more important to him that they play and they win on the field instead of following the rules. It was deliberate and it was calculated. Its nuts, but not surprising that so many fans are mad about the resignation, but I guess I understand it. They're fans and they want to win.

And its not all Buckeye fans either, some, in fact many, wanted him out. They were pissed about the embarrassment to the school.

Gordon Gee (OSU President) says Gene Smith's job is safe. I guess I can see why. They really only knew what Tressel told (and didn't tell) them. Still, I bet they didn't ask too many questions nor did they really want to know that badly.

[Larkin]

http://blog.mlive.com/ottoman-empire/20 ... valry.html

Are you kidding me? The arrogant SOB says "we are going to kick your ass...."

Who is "we" Tressel? You don't work for Ohio State anymore you cheating lying bastard.

[zcientist]

http://blog.mlive.com/ottoman-empire/2011/06/former_ohio_state_coach_jim_tressel_distracts_fans_by_evoking_michigan_rivalry.html

Are you kidding me? The arrogant SOB says "we are going to kick your ass...."

Who is "we" Tressel? You don't work for Ohio State anymore you cheating lying bastard.

That event was the epitomy of arrogance over the weekend. The fan loyalty to Tressel, him milking it and the fans' sweeping the wrongdoing under the rug is an embarrassment to the Ohio State fanbase.

[Larkin]

http://www.10tv.com/live/content/osufoo ... ml?sid=102

Bye Bye Terrelle.

I WOULD however, like to take a moment and sincerely thank you for all you did for Ohio State. You are certainly welcome at my house anytime.

[Mike Austerman]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6637444

http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/exclusive ... ryor-29745


And the hits keep on coming.

From the WorldWideLeader's article:

Pryor may not have been the first active Buckeye player to collect cash for signatures from Talbott. The parent of one former Ohio State player told "Outside the Lines" that he saw Talbott provide what he called "stacks of money" to active Buckeye players, including a player now in the NFL.

Wow.

[Larkin]

Someone brought up last night, that Pryor no longer has to cooperate with the NCAA if he leaves school. As for the NFL, there is no guarantee he will be drafted or even a season taking place next year. If he goes anywhere, the CFL is a possibility I suppose.

As for Ohio State's scandal, it only gets worse and worse everyday. Considering the lying about the lying and the way the BCS stripped USC of its title this week, it may well be that last season didn't exist for Ohio State and could it go back further? SI says it went back to 2002. I am thinking the lying and the cover ups and the "we didn't knows" will result in the NCAA smacking Ohio State pretty hard.

[Jack Wolfman]

Someone brought up last night, that Pryor no longer has to cooperate with the NCAA if he leaves school. As for the NFL, there is no guarantee he will be drafted or even a season taking place next year. If he goes anywhere, the CFL is a possibility I suppose.

As for Ohio State's scandal, it only gets worse and worse everyday. Considering the lying about the lying and the way the BCS stripped USC of its title this week, it may well be that last season didn't exist for Ohio State and could it go back further? SI says it went back to 2002. I am thinking the lying and the cover ups and the "we didn't knows" will result in the NCAA smacking Ohio State pretty hard.

Does this mean that U of M now has a winning record agains "The Vest"??

[Larkin]

Maybe lol!
This is a must read:
http://blogs.forbes.com/sportsmoney/201 ... hio-state/

[Larkin]

COLUMBUS, Ohio - Ohio State Football coach Luke Fickell announced that defensive back Dominic Clarke will sit out of the game against Illinois on Saturday.

Clarke, 20, violated school rules when he was cited for disorderly conduct on Sunday by The Ohio State University Police, 10TV's Dom Tiberi reported.

According to police, Clarke was on the roof of a building and was shooting a BB gun into the road in the area of 10th and Neil Avenues on The Ohio State University campus.

[pbr]

Never go out on a road before you soften it up a little bit first, I guess.

This report is a little different and says they were possibly firing paintballs down on people: http://www.thelantern.com/sports/osu-s-dominic-clarke-arrested-won-t-play-at-illinois-1.2647012#.TpgtGHKjPTo

If so, I've gotta believe it'll be more than a one game suspension.

[Larkin]

SMACK!

http://www.buckeyextra.com/content/stor ... eport.html

[Jack Wolfman]

I think it is a little light. If the Vest gets 5 years, so should the team

[Larkin]

I would have liked to have seen more too, but its better than nothing. I was really hoping for a TWO year bowl ban.

Still, its a culture problem in my opinion and even after it all blew up and Tressel left, they still had issues. I am not sure they will be able to stay out of trouble.